Wednesday, August 24, 2005

Interesting revelations from the GM

John Muckler was on The Team 1200's "Afternoon Drive" show a few moments ago, and revealed two intriguing things:

1) The Senators had approached the agents of Marian Hossa, Wade Redden, and Zdeno Chara with a package that would've seen all three paid the same (likely in the neighborhood of $4 and $4.5 million, since the team has said Daniel Alfredsson would be their highest paid player.) Hossa's side was the only that opposed the suggestion.

2) Hossa told Muckler as they were meeting before the arbitration hearing that if they did go to arbitration he would not be back with the club after this coming season.

Make of those what you will.

11 Comments:

At 6:56 PM, Anonymous David said...

I can certainly see it being possible that the Sens offered Hossa, Chara, and Redden multi-year contracts in the $4-4.5 million range per year. Hossa obviously didn't go for it. As for Chara and Redden, if they did go for it it would be safe to assume that they will both sign new contracts in the near future for that $4-4.5 million per year since they have given Heatley the $4.5 million they wanted to give Hossa.

But, don't be so quick to assume that they will both jump at those offers because I expect one or both of them could get more on the open market next summer. Will they take less to stick with the Sens? Who knows.

 
At 6:59 PM, Blogger CMcMurtry said...

We shall see. As we've seen this last week, saying you want to stay, and actually proving it by making a sacrifice are two entirely different concepts.

 
At 9:04 AM, Blogger Tom L said...

Chris,

I love you analysis on the situation in Ottawa, but I would like to ask you to stop referring to a player taking a lower salary as a 'sacrifice,' because it isn't. It's simply prioritizing money lower than other things, like loyalty and continuity of lifestyle. These are economic factors that we rarely see coming into play in sports contract negotiations anymore and so it's easy to use hyperbole when the barest minimum of it presents itself.

It's simply business. In my mind, good business, but business nonetheless.

Joan of Arc, Jesus Christ and Frodo Baggins all made sacrifices, Wade Redden taking $500,000 less to stay in Ottawa will not. It's a great thing for his teammates and his fans and should be applauded (another form of remuneration, btw) but it's not a sacrifice.

Ta,

 
At 9:37 AM, Blogger miser said...

When Mucks was on the Team1200 yesterday afternoon he let out another tidbit from the new CBA.

Apparently, while you can negotiate contract extensions with a player in the last year of his contract; negotiations are not allowed to begin before January.

There were reports of a getting positive feedback from Redden and Chara to contract extensions under the "Alfie Cap". Not sure if their feelings would be the same in January, especially with the numbers thrown around so far and in Chara case the trade of his friend and countryman, Hossa.

http://senatorshockey.blogspot.com/

 
At 10:24 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I also read that 2 of 3 agents accepted Muckler's offer. Which is odd, since Hossa and Chara have the same agent.

Not sure if I buy all this.

Whatever the case, I still love Hossa. I can't stand people calling him soft. Never saw him lose a battle for the puck.

And I have some reservations about Heatley after reading things like:
-questionnable off-ice activities
-disputes with teamates and management at the WC this spring
-his giant left pupil
-the feeling that he is not emotionally stable
-if the new rules are called, Hossa's speed will be much more valuable
-Philly's D is made to handle size over speed.

 
At 2:52 PM, Blogger aquietgirl said...

And I have some reservations about Heatley after reading things like:
-questionnable off-ice activities


What are these activities? Does anybody have any clues? I mean most players go out to bars after games and get drunk off their asses. What does questionable mean here?

 
At 3:02 PM, Blogger aquietgirl said...

Zdeno does not have the same agent as Marian.

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/NHL/Ottawa/2005/08/25/1187591-sun.html

 
At 3:54 PM, Blogger CMcMurtry said...

-questionnable off-ice activities

Such as? If you're refering to the Dan Snyder death, it was a horrible thing to be sure. But how many of us have sped? How many of us, especially when young, were careless behind the wheel? If you say you've never done so, I'll call you a liar. It's the reason so many people, though upset with Snyder's death, haven't villified Heatley. They can relate. They've been there. Most of us have made that same idiot move at some point in our lives. Fortunately, it's never resulted in a fatality for most of us.

Do you know about his other off-ice activities?

-disputes with teamates and management at the WC this spring

I haven't heard anything about this so I'm intrigued to hear what this is about. Chris Phillips, his teammate on said team, had Heatley stay in his home rather than a hotel last night. Can't be too much anomisity.

-his giant left pupil

A lot has been made of this, but I haven't heard any conclusive verdict. The Senators doctors, the Thrashers doctors, Team Canada's doctors all say it's fine. Eye experts say it could be a problem, but seem to be saying this having never examined Dany Heatley.

-the feeling that he is not emotionally stable

The feeling is that, in a new city, that will be rectified.

-if the new rules are called, Hossa's speed will be much more valuable

True, but Ottawa has plenty of speed elsewhere. You could argue you can never have enough, I know, but Martin Havlat and Peter Schaefer aren't slouchs on skates. Heatley brings something to the table that they as a team lacked, which is a top six forward who can score a lot of goals and go hard to the net. Hossa has developed the physical part of his game immensely over the last two or three years, and is no longer the pussy he was earlier in his career, but he still doesn't crash the net. He's more finesse oriented. Heatley will go hard to the net. The only other top six forward Ottawa has that does so consistently is Mike Fisher, and as much as I like him, he doesn't have half the offensive upside Heatley does.

-Philly's D is made to handle size over speed.

Even if he is bigger than Hossa, is he so much slower that the Hatchers and Rathje's of the world can catch him with ease? I recall him still being fairly quick footed on skated. And last time I checked, Ottawa doesn't play Philadelphia 82 times, and may not even play them in the playoffs. Building a team to beat another one is very misguided.

 
At 5:52 PM, Blogger aquietgirl said...

-his giant left pupil

I think he's using dilation drops to keep his eye from contracting. It's not permanent.

 
At 7:49 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry,

Off-ice activities
-from a recent AJC article by Jeff Schultz

Disputes at WC
-from a recent espn.com article by Scott Burnside

 
At 7:54 PM, Blogger CMcMurtry said...

Right, but what are they? What are his questionable off-ice activities?

 

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