Thursday, March 09, 2006

Tyler Arnason on the way

The Senators have traded for 27-year-old Tyler Arnason from Chicago for Brandon Bochenski. I'll have more thoughts later, but as of right now, I'm underwhelmed.

8 Comments:

At 4:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

be very underwhelmed by this ridiculous Blackhawk management team. I wish Keenan were still here.

 
At 4:12 PM, Anonymous David Johnson said...

Underwhelmed? I understand how you feel. The Senators acquired another skilled, soft, unproven forward with little or no playoff experience. He fits right in with the Senators. I'm just not sure what he brings that Patrick Eaves or Antoine Vermette doesn't. Ottawa really needed someone with expereince or someone with some grit. I firmly believe that Carolina is now the team to beat in the East. Picking up Recchi is a huge addition for them and if Cole can come back for the playoffs they will have a better mix of experience, youthful energy, grit and skill than the Senators. Ottawa really missed an opportunity to go for the Cup and I am afraid they may regret it for years to come.

 
At 5:50 PM, Anonymous duff said...

Carolina without Cole is ripe for the picking.Does Gerber have as much experience as Hasek?Alot of what ifs,I Know but Ottawa may never meet Carolina if Cole is gone for the first round or more.
How will the playoffs be called? The same as the reg season?This year is a crap shoot and anything is possible.

 
At 6:29 PM, Blogger CMcMurtry said...

if Cole can come back for the playoffs they will have a better mix of experience, youthful energy, grit and skill than the Senators.

Up front maybe, but certainly not on defence.

 
At 1:11 AM, Anonymous David Johnson said...

Up front maybe, but certainly not on defence.

Yes, I agree there. They don't have a Chara or Redden on defense but they have a serviceable one. It is their one weakness. Well, that and experienced goaltending but Gerber hasn't faultered at all all season so I wouldn't be too worried there. I'd be more worried about Hasek's injuried issue.

But I think Carolina's strength down the middle can offset the difference on defense. Ottawa could desperately use a Brind'amour kind of guy as a second line center, not Arnason. This is what scares me about Ottawa:

Spezza: 6 playoff games
Arnason: 3 playoff games
Fisher: 39 playoff games
Vermette: 4 playoff games

Not much playoff experience at center. Combine that with

Heatley: 0 playoff games
Eaves: 0 playoff games
Meszaros: 0 playoff games
Pothier: 8 playoff games
Kelly: 0 playoff games

8 significant players on the Ottawa roster have little or no playoff experience. Not many teams win with that much inexperience. Aside from Staal, Cullen and the goalies all significant Hurricane players have ample playoff experience including several with Stanley Cup appearances.

 
At 3:01 AM, Blogger CMcMurtry said...

8 significant players on the Ottawa roster have little or no playoff experience. Not many teams win with that much inexperience. Aside from Staal, Cullen and the goalies all significant Hurricane players have ample playoff experience including several with Stanley Cup appearances.

1) Are Pothier and Kelly really significant players? Kelly's a serviceable role player, but he's a four line guy. Pothier is the sixth defenceman. Hardly impact players. Same goes for Eaves, who, when Havlat gets back will be relegated to fourth line duty as well.

2) On the 'Canes, Kaberle, one of their key defenceman, doesn't have a single game of playoff experience.

3) Tampa won last year with a relatively inexperienced core as far as post season pedigree.

Anyway, I agree that it's somewhat of a concern, but show me a team without at least some downsides and I'll be shocked. That happens to be one of Ottawa's. The only way to get experience is to play.

 
At 3:17 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

One Recchi will make any team much better? Nonsense. I think - when read all comments - that you all want in Ottawa big name... Arnason is very solid, hard working on board player. I think i better to sign him than lease Recchi for one month.

 
At 7:09 AM, Anonymous David Johnson said...

Are Pothier and Kelly really significant players?

Kelly, yes, I will agree he isn't a significant player. With the Arnason trade and Havlat's return he might be the odd man out. But Pothier, yes, he is significant. He is averaging over 15 minutes per game and plays on the second PP unit.

On the 'Canes, Kaberle, one of their key defenceman, doesn't have a single game of playoff experience.

True but he and Staal are the only players without playoff experience. Also on defense they have Wesley who has oodles of playoff experience including a couple of times to the Cup finals. Wallin, Hedican and Ward who were with Carolina's Cup run team in 2001-02. Mike Commodore who was a part of Calgary's cup appearance in 2003-04. And Tverdovsky who has 40 playoff games under his belt. So by my count that is 5 defensemen who have participated in at least one cup final. Ottawa has just 2 players on its whole team who have been to the Cup finals (Hasek and Varada).

Tampa won last year with a relatively inexperienced core as far as post season pedigree.

Yes, it can happen, but they also had zero injuries all year, had the easiest regular season schedule and an extremely easy playoff schedule and rode a hot goalie. They also had no rookies or second, or third year players in their lineup.

Anyway, I agree that it's somewhat of a concern, but show me a team without at least some downsides and I'll be shocked.

No doubt. Every team has downsides. All I am trying to say is that I think after all the trades are done Carolina's appear to be less than Ottawa's and that Ottawa has once again failed to acquire some grit and veteren leadership that I think is immensely important in the playoffs. I just don't think Arnason brings anything new to this team despite being a reasonably good player. And in what might be the Senators best chance of post season success before potentially having to let go of some core players they had to take the plunge and pull out all the stops. I think yesterday's trade deadline was a failure for the Sens.

 

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