Sunday, November 12, 2006

Like shooting fish in a barrel, I know, but I had to

Dwayne Klessel posted this bit on his "blog":

Shawn Horcoff for Chris Phillips. Would you do it?

Not if you are Edmonton in my opinion. All you need to do is look at last year's playoffs and how these guys performed. My memory of Horcoff was that Detroit series and the finals. I felt that Horcoff could have won the MVP in the playoffs last year. HE was the best player on the Oilers. He is the most well rounded player for sure. He is very similar to a young Steve Yzerman.

My Memory of Phillips was him allowing players to skate by him in the Buffalo series, including the goal that eliminated the Sens. I also remember that one goal by Drury where he was allowed to skate in from the corner and score without anyone touching him.

Now, I don't believe this rumor has any basis in reality, and probably started on a message board by some armchair GM, however, there are two points that are worth destroying:

1) Chris Phillips was NOT on the ice when the Sens were eliminated
Funny how memories can be such bullshit. How Chris Phillips can be held responsible for the goal scorer to knock out Ottawa when he was on the bench is beyond me. Daniel Alfredsson has been the goat on that one (and to a lesser extent Wade Redden) but now we're blaming people who were watching it like the rest of us? Was Phillips supposed to jump on the ice and tackle Jason Pominville? Use his superpowers to will the puck off Pominville's stick?

As anyone who's watched the Sens over the years would know, Chris Phillips has been, year in and year out, their most consistent playoff performer, and was still one of the few effective Sens in the Sabres series despite having a bum knee that probably should have had him on the shelf.

The odds are pretty good that Chris Phillips will leave Ottawa at the end of the year. Despite his struggles this season, he's still highly regarded throughout the league and will therefore get a rich contract on the open market this summer. Based on the contracts thrown out this past July, Phillips is probably a $3 million blueliner, and that's too rich for the Sens blood.

But I don't think they'll be moving him anytime soon. Phillips has what this team is supposedly lacking most, according to its critics, and that's heart and leadership. You think this is a soft, mentally weak team now? Move the Big Rig and you'll be yearning for the past month.

2) Shawn Horcoff is like a young Steve Yzerman
I hope I don't have to even say anything.


At 9:39 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It diminishes us all in the blog community when we take shots at each other.

Your blog has not reported on any Sens games since the last one against Pittsburgh.

Please resume reporting of the Sens and your opinions on the general health of the team. Your comments are great and spot on most of the time.

At 10:27 PM, Blogger Groane said...

Wow. Talk about drivel from an anonymous poster. "Diminishes us all"?
Keeps them honest, more likely. And Chris does it peerlessly well. Keep up the stellar work, Chris.

At 10:32 PM, Anonymous Cat said...

"Young Steve Yzerman?"

Yeah, like maybe at three years old. Or while blindfolded. :)

At 11:18 PM, Anonymous David Johnson said...

It has been mentioned frequently in the main stream media that the Oilers have always had an interest in Phillips so this rumour is nothing new. It's been reported elsewhere too (

But what the Oilers are really looking for (as mentioned in the article) is a more offensive minded defensemen to play the point on the PP and Phillips is not that kind of defenseman.

If the Senators are still not looking like a contender come February one or both of Phillips and Volchenkov will be on the trading block (maybe Priessing too who would fit the Oilers needs a bit better). I can't see both Phillips and Volchenkov being with the Senators next season (and Muckler has said he hopes Brian Lee will be in the mix next year anyway). Which one of the two goes will likely depend on contract negotiations and who is asking for how much.

At 11:45 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

No one is anonymous on the Internet. :)

The substance of my question remains, however.

Why has the blog owner not addressed the past few games and the Sens performance?

He clearly is capable of a cogent argument and is quite literate...but something is holding him back?

As to the matter at hand, it's been siad many times that Redden/Phillips so on would look fine out west. Perhaps a trade to the Flames/Oilers can benefit both teams. Ottawa with some needed grit, and Edmonton with some defense.

At 12:09 AM, Anonymous David Johnson said...

"He clearly is capable of a cogent argument and is quite literate...but something is holding him back?"

I am sure Chris can defend himself but who cares? Maybe he is just tired about writing about the same thing? Maybe he went out and didn't get to see Friday's game and Saturday's game was not televised here in Ottawa. Maybe he is just too busy with other stuff. But whatever the reason, I can guarantee you this: He doesn't blog for the benefit of some anonymous guy who doesn't have the guts to show the world who he is.

At 4:59 AM, Anonymous Kaz said...

The best thing about Chris's blog is that he doesn't pull punches. It's hard to post with that attitude considering the consistently inconsistent way the Sens have played in the majority of the games so far.

The anonymous poster really doesn't know what he's talking about. And while I agree that Horcoff is not on the same planet as Yzerman (check his stats this season for proof of that), and will never approach him as a player, I also think this is a ridiculous rumour. Edmonton will not trade Horcoff for Phillips because he's going to be unrestricted this summer.

At 6:30 AM, Blogger The Puck Stops Here said...

Horcoff is a young Steve Yzerman????

First, Horcoff is 28. So I suppose younf is a reltive term in that he isn't 40 or something.

But why compare to Steve Yzerman? Horcoff has never appeared in an all star game. Horcoff has never had a point per game season (he came close last year with 73 points in 79 games).

When Yzerman was 28 he had just compeleted his 6th straight 100 point season. That year alone he had scored 137 points - which is more than 2/3 of Horcoff's career total.

At 8:35 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why is Eklund the Idiot trying to deflect attention from his idiocy by posting anonymous messages here about the blogger's lack of recent Senators coverage?

At 7:32 PM, Blogger Don said...

Not that the anonymous posting isn't interesting, but back to hockey.... I've seen a couple of comments about how Redden-like some of the defensemen are, and there seems to be some consensus on difficulties with toughness and heart to varying degrees. Would dealing one of the offensive-minded young defensemen for a tougher defense-minded one help overall?

I agree that losing Phillips wouldn't help, but there are teams out there almost literally screaming for offense. Preissing, for one, could be dealt and not overly damage the team's future. He did have 40 points last year, but hasn't looked comfortable in any game that I've seen him in this year. I like the guy, watched him in college, but he's not what the team needs right now.

The question, then, is what can they get for him and from whom? I can't imagine Calgary wouldn't be interested, but what would they offer?

At 8:37 PM, Blogger Don said...

A decent 1st for Ottawa, though I can't believe they gave up another shorty.

Would Vancouver give up Mitchell for Preissing? Jay McKee from the Blues? The Rangers need a powerplay quarterback, but would Roszival or Malik be the right fit?

At 9:12 PM, Blogger Black Dog said...

As an Oilers fan I can tell you that that trade won't happen. Even with his slow start Horc is one of the heart and soul guys on the Oilers. He does it all - point a game, terrific in his own zone, PK, faceoffs etc.

Of course he is no Steve Yzerman - that's plain silly - and I love Horc.

But the Oil woouldn't trade him for Phillips even if Phillips wasn't a UFA after this season.

If the Sens continue to slide and decide to make some moves the Oilers would be interested - they're carrying three rookie Dmen right now and need help on the blueline for sure - but they're not trading their #1 centre for Phillips.

No way.

Its moot anyway - its still early. Once Redden gets healthy and the Sens begin to click they'll be keeping Phillips for one more kick at the can.


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